Comments on: Developer blog #8: Campaign https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/ Sun, 06 Nov 2016 16:55:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Q https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-2820 Sun, 06 Nov 2016 16:55:12 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-2820 In reply to Jason.

You’re correct. From the 20 minutes of audio I listened to, the actor never says savage indians. However, he does say “savages” and “damned indians “. Whichever way he did or could have said it is highly offensive, though.

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By: Devilhunter https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1898 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 14:34:36 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1898 In reply to willy.

But why the racism exists?
On the one hand the racism exists, on the other – people can badly treat other people of the same-race. “Damn you man! You have the same skin color, same eyes, same ears. You have all the same. I hate you!”
So, probably, racism doesn’t exist? Some racial distinctions are just fake-reasons to behave yourself badly?
OR
Racism is a kind of definition “friend or foe”. Probably this is a primitive mechanism of your tribe protection. This is a mechanism, which saved life to humans for thousands of years. If you meet something new, it can be friendly or not. If you let this new to your life, but it appears to be bad, you can lose your life.
Just imagine humans as a human body. Racism is your immune system. Every day you meet huge amount of bacteria, viruses and so on. Your immune system kills all newcomers or at least tries to. It doesn’t divide that bacteria and viruses into friends or foes. Probably it’s not the best solution. Probably you could gain some useful bacteria or viruses, but your body can’t just afford it. It’s to hard to distinct the good ones and the bad ones.
What happens with full tolerance? That is what is called AIDS. You immune system lets in everyone. And that’s definitely not good.

So. What do you think about this?

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By: Jason https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1885 Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:42:03 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1885 Love the look of it the voice acting is awesome, having listened twice because i have seen all the negative feedback. at no point does the actor say savage Indians.
but glad you have kept the cow boy and Indian element in the game. look forward to seeing the world war elements of the game far more close to home for Europeans.

i have asked before and will mention it again please allow trains to crash if train lines are built in a dangerous configurations ( like the original transport tycoon just an explosion nothing overly graphic). also a boat sinking would be a good feature something most tycoon games leave out ( again not looking for anything graphic just boat disappears and needs replacing would suit me)
in the future though would be cool to take the human cost into consideration in the Jurassic park game Operation Genesis the park builder gets fined 10.000 every time a visitor to the park is killed. could do the same every-time a train crashes or boat sinks.

Thanks for all the effort i cant wait to buy the game !!

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By: willy https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1882 Thu, 06 Oct 2016 10:00:52 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1882 In reply to Devilhunter.

Because it is biologically incorrect to denote groups of people “races”. To say that “All humans belong to the same race” is not being politically correct, but scientifically correct. Therefore, racism is not just “morally” wrong, it’s just plain wrong. The claim that groups of people are supposedly other races was invented to be able to treat these groups differently without breaking any (legal, religious, moral, etc.) standards. In short, if you want to treat people differently in a society without destabilizing this society, you need to somehow classify these people differently. Europeans were only able to murder, dispossess, enslave, etc. without going to jail (and/or hell), because they declared other peole as belonging to a “different race” to which different standards apply.

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By: Devilhunter https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1862 Wed, 05 Oct 2016 13:56:49 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1862 In reply to Tadas.

Yeah. It would be great. Both of the suggestions.

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By: Tadas https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1860 Wed, 05 Oct 2016 12:06:23 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1860 I just remembered i had an issue while playing train fever and settings multiple train lines to sthrough the station trains always travel only through specific platform. Is it possible to program in for trains to choose empty plaform to get in to the station avoiding congestion near stations.
Another thing i would like to ask about signalling system is it going to be the same or is it going to have more complex features like in real life for example active yellow light signals as well allowing trains to start moving on 15-20km/h speeds.
Thank you

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By: Devilhunter https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1859 Wed, 05 Oct 2016 11:02:09 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1859 In reply to Dan.

What “why”?
I just want to know why racism is considered to be bad. I some arguments that explain the phenomenon of the racism. Though, I must admit that indeed I don’t support or oppose racism, I just accept it.

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By: Uli https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1858 Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:42:16 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1858 In reply to Berry.

The devs are swiss.

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By: Katager https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1848 Tue, 04 Oct 2016 22:47:09 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1848 Also ich würde mich freuen es endlich spielen zu können, denn das was ich sehe gefällt 🙂
Bisher bin ich total begeistert von den Verbesserungen im bau System bis hin zur Kampange, ich erhoffe mir noch mehr Spielstunden in dem spiel verbringen zu können als in Train Fever da bin ich aktuell bei knapp 400

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By: Dan https://www.transportfever.com/developer-blog-8-campaign/#comment-1847 Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:48:51 +0000 http://www.transportfever.com/?p=4110#comment-1847 In reply to Dan.

In the context of what we’re dicussing, yes, systemic racism *became* normalised… over 100 years ago, and again, in the context of what we’re discussing, has since become de-normalised, by the spreading of more enlightened ideas and gradually bringing the majority of people to the realisation that such terms are inappropriate and offensive to the people involved. How many people in this thread, even the in the cases of the more obnoxious posts are, in a current context, ignorantly refering to native Americans as “Damned Indians”?
Why would we even be having this discussion if this particular example of systemic racism still existed to any significant degree?
Given that it doesn’t, what relevance does a discussion about its depiction solely in a historical context have to modern-day examples of systemic racism that *do* exist?

Widespread racism certainly exists today, I’m not disputing that. But imagine 100 years from now – imagine someone making a game or film referencing a Donald-Trump-like character, in the context of what is *then* distant history? Would it be offensive to people of that future time to depict him as the callous, self-serving racist that he is? Should they instead depict him as a well-intentioned, considerate business tycoon, who only talks of other races in the enlightened terms of the day? No… *that* would be offensive.

It’s entirely possible to be considerate of other races, while at the same time not seeking to sanitize history to make it more palatable. In fact, I’d say that to do so *would* be inconsiderate of current racism issues, as all it really does is encourage people to ignore and forget them.

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